US Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris (C) listens as former Representative Liz Cheney (R), Republican of Wyoming, speaks during a conversation moderated by former First Lady of California Maria Shriver (L) at the Royal Oak Music Theatre in Royal Oak, Michigan, on October 21, 2024. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)